Can I ever get off methadone? How?

MethadoneHello Stanton,

I seem to have a problem.

I want to know how to get off methadone.

I have been a severe alcoholic and drug addict (mostly heroin and pain killers but there were years of crack, smoking coke, and everything else).

When I reached 40 years old I was about to die from drinking, I was diagnosed with hepatitis C and my life was so unbearable because of severe stomach pains all day, every day.

I decided to try to quit everything , but the pains were constant and severe in my stomach for years, so I kept up a little bit of pain killers to function.

After a while they didn’t work of course and I got on an access medical program to find out why my stomach was so painful. After every test I can think of and cameras up my rear they could not find any actual reason and settled on the fact that I was an addict –  there was my reason for anything else that could possibly happen, and the tests stopped!!

Well I started buying methadone on the street to kill the pain, and it worked, so I bought it on the streets for about a year and finally got on a methadone program.

On the streets I was taking 100 to 140 a day or sometimes every other day depending on my pains. Eventually the pain went away, I settled down and dropped to 85 mgs and my life got excellent, I was happy again, no pains, worked all day (started my own business which is successful for all purposes, which took hard work 10+ hours a day with very few days off ever, and my life was good for the first time since I was eleven (when my addictions started).

It has been 6 years on methadone now, and after about 3 good years I decided I was fine and and could start the withdrawal process.

By the way I had stopped all drugs and drinking and was clean completely since almost the very start of methadone! So the first time I tried to stop methadone I dropped in groups of 5 mgs or sometimes 10 mgs a month till I was down to 28 mgs. Well all of a sudden severe depression set in I started having stomach problems and after months of that I went back up to 35, even though I wanted more. It did help and I was ok mostly again, so from there I dropped slower down to 10 mgs, well that was a struggle and at 10mgs I tried to stop completely.

Well after 4 weeks off completely, I was so sick and life seemed worthless again I raised my dose back to 28 mgs and it went ok again. I decided that next time I would drop slower like I should’ve and try that. I desperately wanted and still want to be drug free, but normal feeling. Well I dropped 2 mgs, a month which took forever it seems, and I am at 8 mgs.

The problem is I am very sick almost always, I feel like I have severe arthritis and my stomach is going off the roof, just like 7 years ago when I started for that reason, although it isn’t quite as bad as it used to be.

I am confused, I am doing this just like they said to and I can barley take it, shouldn’t my withdrawing be much less painful as I am going slow?

I keep thinking I am very sick and need to get to a doctor but then I start thinking it is just the dropping and that’s what happens.

Like so many I have had bad problems with doctors after they find out I was an alcoholic and drug addict, on methadone, then that’s always the reason for everything and they don’t do much to find out or seek an alternative reason for me being sick.

It seems like when I try to get off the methadone everything from years ago starts coming back, even though I been clean for 7 years.

I am confused and am wondering how long does this withdrawal take approx. And should I be sick at this small drop for so long? I been dropping for almost 2 years now, and if and when I reach 0 mgs will I eventually get back to feeling better after a period of time, or am I just what I am and maybe I will never be well again, or just to wake up without being very sick, because as much as I want so bad to be finally off everything, could it be I cant function without it?

I realize this was a long question but it is an important one to me, and I find myself confused and unsure of my future, when it was so good for so long.

Does it happen sometimes people need to stay on this methadone forever, or am I at just the worst part of a very long battle?


Dear Bill:

You are interesting person. And I admire you. You have been addicted all your life, and you want to change that. I admire people like that.

Some methadone maintenance advocates say that you always need to be on methadone. But you don’t buy that and want to fight your addiction. I can’t speak about your individual situation, because I am not your therapist. But I like to believe it is possible.

Obviously, others will look at your efforts and say, “When Randy gets below a certain level of opiates, he can’t function. He becomes depressed, his body fails him, and so on.” This seems to be what doctors are telling you.

But one thing you are set on doing is improving your life, and there are many ways to keep doing that – methadone or not — things you don’t talk much about, like exercise, family, friends, work, helping others.

I am copying this e-mail to a couple of people who advocate methadone maintenance, and have much experience with it, to see if they have additional advice or referrals for you.


(We asked Bob Newman, Director of the Chemical Dependency Institute for his input on this readers question. The following is Bobs response)

Dear Bill,

A somewhat different perspective than Dr. Peele’s.

My view is that when someone has had a problem of life-and-death significance (as you had with opiates), which has made it essentially impossible to function normally (as in your case), and precluded great personal and professional success (as it did in your case), and then that person has the enormous good fortune of finding a medication that has essentially no side effects and that reverses all of the terrible consequences of the condition (as has been your experience with methadone), and then finds that as this safe and effective medication is withdrawn the pain and fears associated with the underlying problem return – then the question for me is why in the world would you want to risk everything by persistent effort to stop the medication?

the question for me is why in the world would you want to risk everything by persistent effort to stop the medication?

Yes, there are dumb people – including without question a great many healthcare providers – who view methadone as an evil substance and those who receive it as stupid or weak of bad people.

But hell, life is full of dumb people, but why seek to gain their approval by putting one’s very life on the line?

No one “likes” to take medicine.

Who “likes” taking insulin, or antidepressant meds, or cardiac arrhythmia or hypertension meds, or even vitamins for that matter?

And almost everyone on those meds knows that there are folks with the same problem(s) who manage to overcome the need for the meds (e.g., diabetics can overcome their insulin dependency by exercise, diet, stress-reduction, etc etc etc).

But while it’s nice to do what one can to be free of the medication, is it worth risking one’s personal and professional success, happiness, health and very life?

I don’t think so.

Obviously, if a patient – any patient – wants to overcome the need for a medication – any medication – physicians should do all they can to assist. But at the same time, it would be unethical not to ensure the patient has thought through the potential benefits and the potential risks of such a course.

My own views reflect the fact that I draw absolutely no moral or medical judgments based on whether a former heroin user is living a healthy, self-fulfilling, personally gratifying life with or without methadone or other medication, any more than I consider a recovering alcoholic a better or healthier person if s/he does or doesn’t attend AA meetings, take antabuse, rely on yoga, or whatever.

If someone who was largely unable to function with heroin and whose life was at risk several times a day with each and every shot of the drug is today leading a good life, I could care less as a physician, friend, employer, father or whatever whether that person is a graduate of a residential treatment facility, was or is taking methadone, found the way to abstinence through Christ (or through Islam), or just plain stopped without any support at all.

Whatever you do, I wish you the best.

Bob Newman
Director, Chemical Dependency Institute
Beth Israel Medical Center


Thanks for taking the time to give your inputs. Bob, you don’t think I’m one of those dumb people, do you? The only thing I think you miss in your heartfelt answer is Randy’s own repeated drive to get free of drugs.



Never (hell, it would cheapen greatly the meaning of the Lindesmith Award which you and I both received – the dumb people are those Bill refers top in his message – the doctors and others who blame whatever difficulties a person has on the methadone. You can use my response in any way in any forum you wish – it’ll be an honor.


Stanton Peele

Dr. Stanton Peele, recognized as one of the world's leading addiction experts, developed the Life Process Program after decades of research, writing, and treatment about and for people with addictions. Dr. Peele is the author of 14 books. His work has been published in leading professional journals and popular publications around the globe.


  • Jessica says:

    It’s funny because a lot of doctors don’t realize that opioids fix stomach issues. It used to be prescribed way back in the day for stomach ailments. I used to have severe reflux and peptic ulcer disease, when on opioids it completely disappeared. If you have the stomach problems the opioids are actually helping it. They calm the gut, because there are receptors all along your intestines. A lot of doctors don’t know much about it besides what they read, but I have personal experiences as well as what I have seen in people I know. The arthritis you feel like you have is also the body aches from the opioids. I had 6 months of full withdrawals from heroin, and methadone can take up to 1-2 years. You have to either be strong and deal with feeling like death for 1-2 years or stay on it. Everything you said is normal. It also does not matter how slow you taper down, once you stop is when you feel the true pain regardless. That’s what a lot of doctors don’t understand either. I was on .25 a day of suboxone and it wasn’t until I tried jumping off of the extremely low dose (didn’t even show on pee tests half the time) that I was in hell on earth. Every doctor couldn’t believe I was on such a low dose, and couldn’t imagine it was doing anything for me, but it was.

  • On methodone also says:

    It is said that there is basically no side effects but the main thing for me is going to the clinic every day. I have never done any drugs since I started going to the clinic but am constantly getting my takehomes took for methodone not being present In my system or not being able to pee enough for a sample. If I could keep my takehomes methodone would not be so bad but to be shackled up going to the clinic every day it is pretty horrible.

    • Zach Rhoads says:

      Exactly so!
      It’s not the drug that is limiting (drugs are drugs), it’s the story and limitations that come with making these drugs accessible that is the problem. The best of luck to you in your journey, and hopes that you’ll find a balance in difficult dance!

  • Gweema DeeDee says:

    I have been in MMT for 4 years, starting at 30 mgs and settling at 115 mgs until I decided a couple of years ago that my life was stable in all aspects, not just stable but enjoyable and worth fighting for.
    I’ve been titrating at 1 mg a week for almost 2 years now and am at 32 mgs now. Still going strong.

    The first thing I did when I decided to finally start titrating, which took me a month of research, I put an emergency plan in place with my counselor and doctor, so that if I had any issues or questions, day or night, what/who I can either do, call or go for advice or help.

    My counselor, doctor and even the dosers at my clinic are like family to me and are all supportive and excited for me and never tried to stop me from weaning or try to change my mind. They have honestly saved my life 💚 They always let the final decision be mine, absolute.

    They listen when I have concerns and if I need anything, at all, they bend over backwards for you.

    I love my clinic and will miss them when I’m finally done but I’m ready to fly the coop and stand on my own two legs. Which they helped put back under me 💙💙💙

    • Zach Rhoads says:

      It sounds as though you’ve found a system of care that put your needs and preferences first! We can only hope that this will be generalizable. Very happy to hear of your success in finding a balance– and for all of your hard work to get where you are. What could be better?

  • Alanna says:

    There isn’t much information out there regarding this but it took me 6 months after getting 100% clean to start to feel even a tiny bit better. 6 months of absolute hell, and not PAWS, I was having full blown withdrawals for 6 months. I broke, but I want to try again because at least now I know what to expect. But for 6 months after detoxing I had constant body aches where I had to get into an epsom salt bath every morning. I couldn’t sleep without something to help, I was sweaty all the time with constant goosebumps, I was freezing and my feet literally felt like ice cubes for 6 months. I would sneeze all day in 3-4x fits, my nose was always stuffed up. I had diarrhea, I could barely eat. I wanted to Kill myself for the first 2 months after. I had no energy, and my body felt weak. I was always angry and angry at the world, but it’s mostly because I felt so awful. I felt trapped in this worthless body. I literally felt so pumped up after I got sober but the feeling so horrible with no end in sight actually broke me down eventually. I couldn’t work, I couldn’t clean my house, sobriety was taking everything from me so I eventually relapsed. No one tells you this, they just say it’s 7-10 days of withdrawal then PAWS, but it’s not true at all.

  • Susan says:

    Just wondering, is it possible to get back into a pain management doctor after being on methadone, only for a couple weeks, like what if it’s just not working for you, if it’s causing nausea and not working out.

  • Tyler (Opiate addict, 13 yrs.) says:

    Unfortunately, opiates change the way your brain works in some very dramatic ways. Many doctors and neuro scientists are beginning to accept that opiates may play a role in changing the gray matter of the brain PERMANENTLY, meaning long term use of opiates may result in lifelong dependency. We can only hope that interests begin fighting for methadone to be less regulated so that addicts like us can experience a full and wonderful life, instead of being chained to clinics. I can’t even see my family because they don’t live near a methadone clinic, and my clinic doesn’t give takehomes until you’ve had years clean with no alcohol. My takehome timer was reset during the COVID-19 pandemic because the ethyl alcohol hand sanitizers can set off breathalyzer machines.

  • Brandon says:

    I quit cold turkey 120 mg was like hell i didnt go every day so lil by lil they lowered it i was at 80 mg all of a sudden my medicaid shit off i out it back on for sone reason they denied me the medication i said f this and suffered 3 months but i was a boxer it’s all about will power dont ever give up

  • Brodie says:

    Hey guys I just want everyone to know that on Dec 14th 2019 I took my last 140mg dose of methadone. I went cold turkey over the holidays and it was the most agonizing, painful, hellish experience one can go thru in this life. Now it is May 18th 2020 and I’m hanging tough. I still have mild depression but I have not gone back to shooting heroin. I didn’t want to get off of done but my back was out against the wall per se and I am happy that I was blessed with then undesirable circumstances to get off. You have to want it more than anything. It will be the hardest thing in your life to go thru from my experience.

    God Bless,

  • Jay says:

    I used methadone a few times for years at a time. 3x I went threw basically cold turkey withdrawals. The last time I was on it was for 3 years. I have now been off of it 6 years and it has destroyed me. I have developed hypothyroidism, hypogonadotropic hypogonadism, sleep apnea/hypopneas with upper airway resistance , agoraphobia and severe treatment resistant high Blood pressure. If you read about the long-term effects it has on the central nervous system, endocrine system and even your respiratory system you’ll understand how I developed these problems.
    I still feel very very bad daily. It has caused damage to my body and I haven’t been able to bounce back. The hard core withdrawal from 140mg to 0mg in one week was the straw that broke the camel’s back. I can’t find a doctor that knows enough about the lasting effects methadone has that can actually help me figure out why I feel so terrible. My bodies fight or flight response is literally killing me because of the dangerously high blood pressure rushes I get at the drop of a hat.
    Wish I just kicked my habit on my own without methodone. Do I go back on it and stay on it for good …..? If not what non-opioid treatment’s can actually help? I’m well past PAWS so why do I still feel so terrible bad? It’s not just depression or just a general feeling of no feeling well. It’s debilitating and I can’t figure out what else to focus on to feel better. Constantly high levels of stress that literally make me sick 24/7. Constantly struggling to catch my breath with pain in the back of my head and even hand numbness that causes them to turn red. If you absolutely can kick the habit on your own try low dose Suboxone or the lowest possible dose needed. If not enough and u need methadone don’t push to go too high and wean very slow.
    If your man just know that your gonna lose alot of your testosterone with long-term treatment. It destroys your HPA axis. Heroin withdrawal is easier then methadone withdrawal

  • Tim says:

    I was admitted to hospital in August 2019 with an infection my pain was so intense gradually the hospital put me on hydromorphone hydrochloride 8mg every 3 hours 24 hours a day 140 every 9 days then released me with no support to come off it after 2 months i am not an opiate user. I don’t have a doctor where i live so i was forced to go on methadone for withdrawal . I started sept 19 2019 during interview explaining my situation i was coached into saying i was a user by an employee there because they the doctor wouldn’t put me on it for only withdrawal so in fear of being turned away i agreed. It is now jan 26 . This coming thursday i will drop another 5 ml which brings me to 5ml will i have a problem coming off the last 5 ml I don’t crave opiates never have even when they were prescribed in the past

  • Anthony says:

    Wake up people meathadome is a life destroyer I spent one year on it before that 15 years on pain killers and had withdrawn heaps of times 2 to 3 weeks off pain pills and I was back on my feet made that big mistake meathadome … been off for six months every day is painful I mean every day fu#k meathadome do yourself a favour don’t ever use just go through withdrawal its 100 times better than what meathadome will do to you I.never had any trouble with my before meathadome after 1 year of use 17.feelings 13 kg wait.gain and no sex drive and like I said been of some for six months and still.feel like help don’t listen to the doctors your just a pay check to them

  • Carolina Bella says:

    Ok I have been back at the clinic for 7 years. This time I was ready for change. Maybe it was just right time because I have been off and on for 20 years. I quit for a year or two and would start back last time I was clean2 years when an old friend came back in my life and I started using again. This is 1st time though I’ve ever felt so determined to get off of it and stay. The time before I stopped methadone at39 mgs for 2 days and started using suboxin and then just went off it a half strip to a quarter strip and then it got to where I’d forget it one day then I forgot one day made myself Not take it the next day too. Then I lost the hook up on suboxin I had And was able to stop. It was almost too easy. That time only happens once in a life time because I tried doing it the same way again 2years ago and I started suboxin too soon I’m guessing I went 2 days off methadone again omg I thought I was dying. I waited. And every 4 hours id take another half and it kept putting me In Full withdraws I wAited 4 hours try again and again and it kept putting me in withdrawal these withdrawals lasted about 40 minutes strong and an hour total after about 6xs doing this I was so tired and thought I would die if I tried anymore so I got 20 mgs of methadone and stopped the madness. 20 mgs was a low dose for me but after all that I was scared of Over Dosing. Now it’s 5 years later I wanna do it right this time under a Doctors Care. I went from 150 mgs 10 mgs down every 2 weeks till I got to 60and I had to switch to only 5 mgs every 2 weeks till I’m at 30 mgs right now and I’m trying figure out my next move for success. I really want this it not for money it’s not for anyone else it’s for me and I want to do it right with the least with drawl so I don’t start back. Can anyone tell me what to do from here I stopped on 30 mgs. For 1 month now. Either I keep dropping or switch to another step stone for easier recovery. I’m terrified to do suboxin but I wanna quit so bad I might would under doctor’s care. Please help if you know what I can do from here.

  • Cassandra says:

    Detoxing off of methadone can be done 🙂 i was on methadone for over 8 years. When I was ready with the proper supports in place… like stable housing, 4 years with the same partner and i really worked the program and moved 4.5 hours away to keep myself away from the bad places and people. I started coming down just 1 mg a week for what seemed to be a hundred weeks…since i was up so high on my dose…it is obtainable…and getting off that 1 mg was a breeze. I remember doing my last sample and saying ill never come back to this clinic or others like it…ever again!

  • lee says:

    A proud lifelong methadone advocate–obviously not someone who actually takes methadone or you would not be posting such ignorant propaganda. You have absolutely no firsthand clue of what you speak.

  • Christine says:

    I just figured I would add my story of detoxing off methadone here, as everyone else’s stories have really helped me. So I was addicted to heroin for 6 years and started taking methadone off and on maybe 3 years before I finally stopped using heroin. I got myself up to 85mg before I felt stable, and I stayed there for a good 2 years while not using anything else. Well I finally decided I was ready to start detoxing. I started doing 2mg a week and was doing generally well until summer hit and I was having a difficult time. So I waited about 6 months at around 45mg and decided to start up again. I continued at 2mg a week up until I hit 7mg. At that point I was just so miserable and had to hold at 7 for another week and then started back with 1mg a week. My body has reacted very strangely to the detox, some weeks struggling very hard, starting to feel sick a mere 5 hours after dosing, and then the next week, 1 or 2mg down, being totally fine. 4mg was truly awful, yet at 2mg I one day completely forgot to take my dose while working all day, at 30 hours after my previous dose and still felt fine. I am now 3 days in at 1mg and have been doing great. I truly cannot wait to not be dependent on anything anymore, to not have to remember my dose if I stay the night somewhere or feel awful in the mornings without it or have to be available to go to the clinic every Saturday. I can say that medication has helped me greatly in my last few months when I have struggled. I took lorazepam sporadically for a bit and it worked wonders for my sleep and anxiety but taking a Benzodiazepine scared me, I didn’t want to get physically dependant. I eventually ended up being prescribed gabapentin, which I thought was rather odd, but it really truly has helped with my anxiety, insomnia and restless legs. Find the right medication to help you through the withdrawals, but be smart about how you are using it. Only use it when you truly need it, whatever it is. I know clonodine is one they prescribe at my clinic but I have not used that particular drug. I have heard it helps, though. Also find a good NA or AA meeting spot in your town. I’m very lucky to have many around, but one truly awesome one with a lot of very supportive, understanding people who are my age. I know I can always go there and feel understood. That can really help you stay focused on your goal. But most importantly, listen to your body and take whatever time you need to get off the methadone but keep your sanity at the same time. Don’t be afraid to hold your dose or slow your detox rate. However you need to do it!

  • Colin says:

    Hi I’ve been on and of methdone for the last 20 more on than of , I was on 140 mil but over the last year ive been coming down , I’m now completely clean , and have been for a month , but I’m going through hell,l sleep about 3 hours a week and spend most of the time walking around my flat because I can’t get comfortable because of the stomach pain , I’ve got know energy , and fill worthless. I’m still getting sneasing fits. How long will this go on for , because I don’t know if I can take much more ???

  • L says:

    I’m almost positive it can be done…for SOME people! You have to really want it. And most important, you have to want it because you are ready to live your life without it. If you’re doing it because you’re tired of paying tons of money at a clinic everyday or you don’t want to deal with the stigma attached to it anymore then it will probably be much harder. If you are really ready to live your life without it……I think it can be done. I have been a patient at a Methadone clinic for 14 years. 2 years ago…I was at a dose of 80 milligrams. Today when I dosed, I tapered to 3 milligrams and I have been actively tapering this entire time. In 2 weeks I plan to drop to 1 and stay there for at least 2 weeks and then….a 14 year journey will be over. I’m ready. I want it more than anything and I will do it. When I entered the clinic I was a 24 year old single mom of an 8 year old daughter (who I have always raised). Today, 14 years later I am married (for 12 years now) and we have had 2 more little girls who are 11 and 9 now. The 8 year old daughter I had when I entered treatment is now a 21 year old who will be graduating from a major state university in less than a year so I 100 percent believe Methadone maintenance can help you live a better life, be a better parent, better employee, better wife, sister, daughter and friend. But for me, I’m ready to do all those things just like I have been, without Methadone. I bought a home 3 years ago, I’ve had the same full time job for 4 years and my husband and I are doing this together. He is also a patient at 3 milligrams. We are stable and have a good support system. To those of you struggling with withdrawals after you taper….if you can’t kick and scream through that first week…go back up 1 or 2 milligrams and try again a week or so later. Don’t taper any more than 10 percent of your dose and only do that once a week. When I got to 14, I started tapering 1 every 2 weeks. I realize this thread is old but I came across it doing research so I figured I’d share my personal story. I’ll let you know in a month or so how it’s going. Best wishes to all of you!

  • Doesn't matter my name says:

    Alright guys…. I was banging heroine years ago and gave the program a try. It kept me clean but when I got off i used again. Long story short, in 2016 I decided I needed to go back on the program. Currently it’s April 2019 and i am on 4 mg . I just came home with my 13 days of doses at 4 mg, and in two weeks will complete the final stretch of my medication at 2 mg for two weeks then I’m done. I haven’t had one shiver…shake…nothing. My highest was 90 mg a few years ago. Here’s how I did it :. Well, I began a workout and mediation routine. While i understand running amd lifting can’t be done by anybody, feeding the soul can. I also implemented a cold water therapy…cold shower, being jn the cold – daily. I started this as soon as I started my methadone maintenance in 2016. When i decided to get off I cut upwards to 5 mg ever week or so… A few times i say at a dose (say 45 mg) for a month… Just to let the body catch up. Once I hit 20 mg I went down a mg a week… At 10 mg i decided to drop 2 mg every two weeks…yes same as a mg a week but again, the body has to get used to the new dose, to the point where it’s as natural as breathing. You just feel normal. Sometimes it takes a few weeks…. Here i am… Still doing the exercise, nature walks, meditation, and cold water therapy. Three tkmes I’ve hit online NA meetings and went to two in person. In the time that I’ve been detoxing I’ve gone through many ups and downs in life…. I’m telling yiu it can be done. Time ia going to go on anyway, you’re on the done… Start dropping a single mg every three weeks…every Sox if you have to. It DOES add up over time…but in the same breath time adds up too. Twenty years will go by and when you’re sitting at 90 mg still, you’ll wish you took four years to slowly slowly slowly taper. Believe in yourself. You are not victims yet you are in total control of this. It is YOUR design. So design it.

  • TaaZen says:

    I’m 45, been on Methadone about 3 years now,140 mg a day. Started with Subu one, !6mg, one year, but went over to Methadone since I’ve heard it was better for my anxiety and nervousness . The last 2 years has been hell. I’m more depressed now than before. I crave for Heroin or Morfin every day, from morning to I wake up. My biggest wish is to quit, but I don’t think I can handle Methadone. I will now try to get Dolcontine, morfin. 100mg x 3 a day , or if needed, 200mg x 3 a day. First of all, it works sooo much better for me. I’ve gone of Dolcontine after one year+ use, and it went fine. Very hard, but I did it, alone. So, that’s also my though, my dream is to be free of drug, and if I get Dolcontine, I have bigger chances. Also, if I must go ally life on opiates, Dolcontine is much better, less poison and for me, it works as it should. No c raving, less anxiety and depression. All in all, a better quality life. Why can’t we get the help needed and be listened to? Why don’t they read what all the doctors says about Methadone vs Dolcontine (Morfine)? We, as patients, NOT CRIMINALS, should have the right to be heard and listened to. I know what works for me, and .all of us know what would be the best. It can be fixed. Why should we live in hell, in prison, cause that’s what’s it feels. Life is about taking care of each others, having the best life possible Someone with cancer, he/she can get whatever they want. Doesn’t they know how much we hurts too? It’s for many an unbearable pain, that sits in the body and mind, and there’s no hope to get well. So, please help us chose what’s best for us, at least try. From one that’s scared for his life, and if it will e like this for 20-30 years longer?

  • J c says:

    Amanda, try a yoyo taper. At 50 if it’s too much go up 5-10mg and start again, 2mg every 7-10 days. I had the same problem when I hit 47, I went up to 55 and started again. Now I’m down to 33mg and will have to go up again to 38mg and go down again slowly. Each time you get a little farther, you only stay at the higher dose for no more than 2 weeks just to stabilize. It becomes your new “baseline”.

  • mike says:

    For those of you getting the methadone brain fog, I was also. I found out from my doctor that it drastically over time reduces testosterone levels, and one of the symptoms of low testosterone is a brain fog and forgetfulness. That and many others such a low to no libido, weight gain, and losing the zest for life. Some doctors now say its ok to take testosterone replacement therapy while others still are apprehensive about it, but if you are one of the guys on methadone gaining weight, losing energy, libido down the drain, and the brain fog, get your T levels checked. Methadone has helped me immensely. But the effects of low T that are derived from the methadone need to be corrected. I know other guys on methadone who started TRT (testosterone replacement therapy) and they feel 100% better. I am now about to start this myself. I was one of those people who never felt comfortable, whether around other people, while looking at myself in the mirror(I had pretty girlfriends) but still thought a goblin was staring back at me, was always restless tapping my feet non stop(my dad would always ask me why I was doing it and tell me to relax and I hadn’t realized I was doing it), and it turned me into a mental wreck. Girls wanted to date me, but I wondered why? I started off as a weekend warrior drinking. While drunk, I tried heroin, and for the first time in my life, I felt relaxed, and I thought that this was how most people felt regularly. When I looked in the mirror, what do you know, a regular dude was staring back at me, I wasn’t a paranoid and nervous wreck dating girls. I felt better, about everything. Heroin was like my medication. I didn’t do it like a lot of people do and check out, spending the day nodding off. I did small amounts, and advanced at work, socially, financially, and with friends and family. Many said things like, “wow, you have a new pep in your step!” But, after a while, the guilt of being a heroin addict set in, so I decided I had to stop. After quitting and dealing with the detox, I was back to normal, uncomfortable around people, nervous, stressed out, and the goblin in the mirror was back. So, back to heroin it was. I was tired of hearing family members say, “well, you just have to toughen up and deal with it!” It was so much more. I decided to stop heroin again but could not take time off work due to big projects so I though I would do a methadone detox. Well, to make a long story short, it didn’t have the same effect as heroin, but it was close. The goblin in the mirror was gone, I felt like I could relax, and felt like I could function and succeed. Now, after 6 years on 140mgs, I have tapered down to 100mgs. I want to get down to as low of a dose as possible that still provides the benefits. I decided I am better off with something sitting on my opiate receptors. Maybe the brain fog and Testosterone levels will level out or go away at a lesser dose, but man, methadone has helped me out a lot. Its also a great pain killer, I was in a bad car accident and broke just about everything, and it helps out so much, for breakthrough pain I will take advil sometimes. I have always been very active, but after a few years on methadone I experienced some weight gain, and I upped my physical activities. But, some of the weight would not come off. I told my doctor how much physical activity I was doing and he said I should be losing a lot of weight and then my low testosterone levels were discovered. Plus, my dying sex drive was not cool, I have always been a enthusiastic fan of sex. So, when that started to go, I was disturbed and initially thought it was old age, but at 36, my friends were still bragging of wild sex lives, so I thought something was off or wrong. Luckily I discovered that the methadone was bringing my T levels so low. Now I can do something about it!

  • Whit says:

    Hi Bill! I have been going through the exact same thing. I did a treatment call ibogaine. If you would be willing to leave the country… It’s illegal here because they consider it a hallucinogenic even though I didn’t at all… they have clinics in Cancun and Costa Rica but this stuff is amazing. It is the only way I got off methadone. I stayed clean for a year after I did the treatment and unfortunately I took on too much because the ibogaine makes you feel that way. It completely takes away your cravings for a good 3 months so you can get through the hardest part of detox. Not to mention it completely clears you mentally your mind feels so clear…when I’ve tried to detox off methadone by myself doing the clinic but slowly tapering… I was sick for 2 months straight… Two months straight… and all my friends who have been on it say the same thing… It is a horrible long long detox and it could even take up to a year after stopping at before you feel normal again but with the ibogaine it changes it and it makes it possible. Please look into it

  • Skydie says:

    Wow!! So many different opinions! I have a very rare disease that effects my spine and my nerves where there are apparently only one out of eight out of a hundred thousand that have this. It is called Syringomyelia. It is extremely painful. I was put on 100 mcg fentenyal patch for the pain for 6 years. And when the government decided that no one could be on 100 unless they were terminally ill and I had to go down to 50 right away, I decided that I had had enough of depending on a very serious drug to live my life, which I was already used to for a long time, so I do not believe that it was helping with pain. Although the disease gets worse each year as I have an MRI and it shows the severity of what this disease is doing to me each year. I am 50 and had a very good career, a lovely house, a truck a boat a snowmobile a husband two children. Due to the fact that I made more money on paper then my husband and although he was having an affair because he said that I was boring now. I just wanted to stay home from being tired with a very sore back when I worked a 10 to 12 hour shift sometimes 6 days a week. And having this disease show up 10 years ago, from being a very active person and mother it was hard for me each year to get things done around the house let alone have any fun. So now I am on disability and have lost my house and everything else. It has been 8 years since my separation from a narcissistic husband who was making more money than me but just wasn’t being taxed. Sorry will get back to the reason that I am on methadone. I didn’t want to go through the withdrawals of going from a hundred to 50 without anything else to help with the pain so I decided to go off it completely and try methadone. I had been on methadone one other time in my life due to a Percocet problem again for my back pain. But at that time I was diagnosed with spinal stenosis degenerative disc disease and sciatica and again wanted to get off taking 12 Percocet a day to survive the pain. And I was in my early 30s and remember being on it for just over a year and the highest dose was 80 mg and tapered it down 5 mg each week until I got to 20 mg and then had it tapered to 3 mg a week until I was at 9 mg and then 1 mg a week. I didn’t have a day of feeling any withdrawal after I was finished it was very rewarding although back to the back pain. I started methadone in July 2017 and now it is April 2018 and I have gone from 90 mg and now I’m at 75 mg. My Dr wants me to go down 5 mg every two weeks where I am pushing him to let me go down 5 each week. So in 3 weeks I’ve gone down 15mg and I am dealing with it just fine. I will always have excruciating pain in my back and nerve damage because there was no cure for this disease and it is eventually terminal. But my reasoning for going down sooner than he would like me to is because of the weight gain I have put on. I am 5 foot 9 and I was 135 lb when I started and I am now 175 lb in a matter of nine months. I would much rather be back to my weight that I kept with eating well and walking everyday for 22 years because the weight gain is causing more pain to my spine and nerves. So I don’t win either way. I can’t be on the methadone to help the pain because it puts so much weight on me like it had the first time I was on it. I would rather be thin and probably be in less pain. But my main reason for speaking about this is that I think especially with such a high dose of fentanyl that I was on for so long that anyone as long as they wean them self properly can do it. I know some patients have had the doctors wean them off it at the pace that’s comfortable and slow but where the doctor doesn’t tell them what is taken off each week so it doesn’t effect them mentally. Good luck to each and everyone of you! And I apologize for such a long history of my health.

  • Craig Cochrane says:

    I live in the UK. I am 58 yrs old and started with heroin at 22 yrs old. In my experience methadone is really difficult to stop. However I just started taking a few months less every now and then. Over a couple of years I got to the point were I would forget to take it in the morning. Later in the day I would feel bad and remember I had to go home for my dose. Without any pressure from my social worker I began to realise that it just kept me comfortable. Then when I was doing 5ml it was so easy to just stop. What was the point of 5 5ml. At first I felt a bit exposed, but it was all in my head. I was given a stop pack , sleepers( 2 weeks worth an some quinine for cramps. I didn’t experience anything like a withdrwall. It was so liberating to be free. I found my love of music again, no anxiety, and as a mega bonus my sex drive returned. It can be done but do it at your own pace , but remember your goal. There is life after the he’ll.

  • Nigel kenneally says:

    I came of methadone after 22 years, 15 months ago (10 of those 22 years were spent on Heroin ).
    I am still at these 15 months, suffering from severe depression. I for one wish that i had carried on a methadone script.

  • KP says:

    It can be done! Years ago while fighting RSD, I was given it for pain relief. Within a month, I was starting to nod off during the day, yet still had constant pain. I up and went cold turkey after 6 months of use. It was hell, the first two weeks sucked. But by week three, the feelings of withdrawal was gone. I started using different forms of treatment to control the RSD, it’s an awful disease, with no end to the pain. I held my own for the next 6 years, then had to seek a pain control Dr, I could no longer walk, and my back hurt 24/7.
    Slowly but surely we tried it all, Vicodin, Oxys, Percocet, Morphine, finally landing on a cocktail of fentinyl and Percocet for breakthrough. I survived on that for the next five years. And actually had a good life, at least I was living and able to function. Then came the downfall
    Of pain management clinics, they were forcing clinics to cut everyone’s meds regardless of what disease you were fighting, the only group not affected was the cancer patients, since they were dying anyway! By then, I was using 150mcg every 48 hours of fentinyl and 2 percs three times a day. Again I got mad, and went cold turkey on the fentinyl. It was a month of hell and I darn near killed myself in the process, but I made it! Next was the Percocet! I now take one twice a day if, the pain is just too much for me to be able to function. I have found that CBD, without THC helps alittle. I use the cream on my back if needed. I know of three people whom are being treated with Methadone for pill addictions, all have been in treatment for 8-9 years, and everytime they attempt to drop down in their doses, at the very first twinge, and they are back to full dose. One who had a addiction to Vicodin refuses to even try, he is happy going to the clinic every week, and as long as he can pay, the clinic will keep him on it, guess it’s a good thing he has weatlthy parents! To all seeking help, I wish you the best! Addiction is a beast, but one I believe you can beat with the right tools. If I was not fighting a terrible disease, with no cure in site, I would never touch another pill in my lifetime. What I have found through treating patients over the years is, that the fear of the withdrawal process is what most fear the most. They convince themselves it will go on forever..and I’m here to tell you it won’t, and yes you can do it!

  • SIAN says:

    Luis, I too have been on Methadone for 20yrs. I am a mother to a 17 year old son and the only time I was able to get off methadone was while I was pregnant. It’s amazing the motivation not to curse the little life growing inside you with your disease is. I was very lucky, I found out I was expecting when I was just 4 weeks gone, at the time I was on 50mls of methadone a day. I bit the bullet and quit cold turkey it was hellish, I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. My son was born healthy as a horse with no problems at all, as for me, my doctor put me back on methadone 5 days after the birth and I’ve been on it since. I am now on 115mg per day and have been at that level for the last 15 yrs. I don’t get ‘high’. I wake up in the morning take my vitamins and my methadone then forget about it until the next day. It enables me to lead a normal life, I’ve always been high functioning, always worked, kept a nice home, been a good (hopefully) mum. Some people are born deficient in certain chemicals in the brain, opiates fill that void and for the first time those people feel ‘normal’ and it’s wonderful. I hate the way Methadone and it’s users are looked down on. You only need visit a dentist or the hospital, they are civil and respectful till you fill out a medication sheet and suddenly you’re scum, an addict, less than them, it sends me off the deep-end. Forget trying to get pain relief for an accident you get ibuprofen and sent home. I had an accident 2 years ago, An SUV hit the passenger side of our family car and I damaged my legs quite badly. I spent a short time in the hospital. One nurse, in particular, looked at me with disdain and said she didn’t want to encourage ‘drug seeking behaviour’ so I was to try to make do with my daily dose of Methadone. I never once asked any nurse or doctor for that matter for any medication including painkillers. My own GP was disgusted and sent a letter threatening to report the nurse in question. It’s difficult, whether you stay on Methadone maintenance or try to come off of it, do what is right for you, don’t be bullied or shamed into doing something you are not ready for. I actually know only one person who has used Methadone as long as I have and funnily enough they are extremely high functioning too. It pokes holes in the dirty, stupid, junkie image that some would try to impose on us. Good luck in whatever you do.

  • Young Corey says:

    You can get off of drugs like oxycodone and heroin even tho 90% of people will get back on but methadone is different. Getting off of it leaves you in a deep depression and anxiety that just seems to stick around and get worse instead of better. Once I was very hard-headed and tried to bite the bullet and kick methadone and I literally went crazy and took awhile after getting back on methadone to regain my sanity. These people saying to get off have never done the same themselves. It’s not weakness or lack of willpower it’s just science and we need to stop letting emotion rule over science. Since I realized that I need opioids to function and will never ever get off I have become much better, wiser and less stressed. Don’t worry just take your dose and kick ass. Peace.

  • Paul says:

    27 years on an average of about ninety MGS. Decided after a removal of brain cyst to get clean of Methadone. 21 months later i’m now at 22MGS. Physically on a scale of one to ten, ten being worse i’d say about six or seven. Mentally is a different story as i feel like i’m approaching insanity

  • grace says:

    when you come of methadone you must do it very very slowly. i mean when you get down to 10ml you cut down to 8ml for 3 weeks then 6 ml for 3 weeks until your down to 5 ml then 1ml a week for 3 weeks until your on none, put it this way your not going anywhere are you so whats the rush.also if your suffering from depression get this addressed as many people treat their depresison with narcotics.

  • Robbin says:

    I would like to quit taking methadone too. I take it for a severe case of restless leg syndrome. My restless leg syndrome wasn’t restricted to just my legs or just at night. I had restless body sometimes, all times of the day and night. After a full year of trying every medication my doctor could think of, he sent me to a neurologist. After an exam and questions, he recommended 5 mg of methadone at night before bed. It worked the first night, and I finally got a good nights rest! That was over ten years ago. I also have fibromyalgia, asthma, severe allergies and petit mal epilepsy as a child. I hate medication but have had to take it since I was an infant.
    Yes, I worry about what people think when I go to pick up the script form the doctor or fill it at my pharmacy. I always explain its for restless leg.
    I have tapered down to 2.5 mg only having to go up to 5 mg when the restless leg gets worse and 2.5 mg doesn’t work.
    After reading many of these posts, I am very concerned. I have been trying for several years to wean off of the methadone. I am very careful about stimulants as I realize they will cause more over active nerve issues, which are not good for restless leg and fibromyalgia. I drink a cup of decaf coffee but not every day. I rarely have a Dr. Pepper. I don’t drink, smoke or do any other drugs. Never have.
    How do I get off of this safely?

  • Gia says:

    I have gone down from 200 mg to 30. I am now starting to feel the WD. I don’t believe methadone should be used as a life long maintenance program and you shouldn’t be using another drug to compensate. I was hooked on multiple drugs. I am currently trying to taper off the methadone as well as benzodiazepines. I want my life back that much. No more dependence on ANY substance. Personally I use exercise, yoga, spirituality, and counseling. If you want it, you will get there. You have to really want to be free. To each is own but I am missing out on life and sick and tired of being sick and tired. I also recommend supplements. Food is natural medicine. Methadone is basically a legal form of heroin and the pharmaceutical companies used addiction to pain medication to their advantage. Sad but true. Find your outlet and your will to be free.

  • Jamie says:

    Thanks to all that have shared. This is my second time being on methodone. The first time I was on it 7 months and at my highest dose I was on 50mg a day. I tappered down to the smallest dose & was eventually off of it all together, I had little discomfort & a few sleepless nights.
    I stayed off of methodone for 2 yrs & experienced major anxiety and discomfort basically I went back to how I’ve Always felt ( uncomfortable in my own skin).
    I decided to get back on the methodone &I went up to 80mg. My mind was finally at peace. By the second year of taking methodone I gained 40lbs & my teeth started breaking. My skin is broke out in tiny red bumps & my entire body looks & feels inflamed.
    I have also noticed when I take my vitimins & drink my green drinks in the morning I puke almost every time. It was like taking my tablespoon of poison would only allow me to be so healhy. After a life time of vitimins & several yrs of breakfast green drinks my body cant tolerate it with methodone in my system. My looks & body have changed soo much in the last 2 yrs some people probably wouldn’t recognize me. I’ve been attractive and in great shape my entire life. That’s not the case any longer.
    I decided to start tapering my dose by 5 mg a week. I’m not experiencing any withdrawals & plan on continuing my tapper. That being said i can’t imagine being completely off of methodone. It has made me mentally more balanced & I don’t have paralyzing anxiety attacks & I can sleep ( I never slept before methodone ).
    I’m hoping the most I reduce my daily mg the less side effects I will experience.
    I feel like I must choose between my looks/ weight over my mental well being.
    Even with all the side effects I have I love what methodone has done for me. It’s a wonderful program but I wish I was more informed on all the side effects.

    Also if you are tapering off of methodone their are several different vitimins which can be taken to reduce & in some cases completely demolish some side effects.
    Good luck fellow methodone users.

  • Luis Grilo says:

    what happened to this people…I wonder…this is 2017, somewhere in the future, hope everibody’s doing fine, I’m taking methadone for 20 years now, was looking for some information and saw this ‘conversation’, health to everione.

  • Dag says:

    Amrit, you have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about.

    Not only are you are trying to shoehorn your personal agenda into a discussion that has absolutely nothing to do with said agenda, but you think addicts are “better off in the long term going to jail” which says a lot about your [lack of] education on the so-called Department of “Corrections”.

    You follow that gem by claiming “Na(sic) and aa(sic) don’t want methadone addicts because they know they either die or get back on methadone.”
    First of all, who are “they”? And why do they care what you’re addicted to?

    Seriously, it’s willfully ignorant people like you who make it harder on learned people who just need a little help to get back on track.

    Actually, forget my argument altogether and just dig a hole in your back yard until it’s too deep to climb out of…then dig some more.

  • Amrit says:

    Methadone is much worse than heroin. It’s a disaster for addicts but makes tons off money for the psychiatric field. So you will have people defend it like there livelihood depends on it. Methadone catches the end result of the pharma industry for more people everyday.It prevents the suicide of many drug addicts but anyone who takes it who is not a intravenous illegal drug addict should not be allowed on it. They may be better off in the long term going to jail. Na and aa don’t want methadone addicts because they know they either die or get back on methadone. I started having panic attacks , took klonipin which made the panic attacks worse.
    It is and will be a worse disaster in the future. Do anything to stop these places from opening in your town

  • Dee says:

    i was on methadone for over 10 years on 150 milligrams. I was tired of going to the clinic and depending on something everday just to feel okay. I taped down to 112 milligrams before checking into a detox center in Michigan. I went cold turkey for 4 days and then was on suboxone for 7 days. I have been off methadone for 16 months. It is possible if you really want it. I’m not saying it was easy but it was so worth it ? I did a lot of praying and had a lot of support and that’s very important. Today I feel like my old self before opiates.

  • Amanda says:

    I am in a similar highest dose was 200 (which I was on for 11 years of my 16 years on methadone maintenance)for 3 yrs I did a slow taper and eventually made it down to 50 before the withdrawal symptoms were too much to handle and I was told by our director they couldn’t help with any supportive mess to help until I got to 20 mg and locked into a 6 week final taper.So basically I was told go back up or suck it up.The withdrawal was so bad and after 6 weeks I’d seen no improvement.i had to leave my job because of the back and body aches.i had no choice but to go up.Im now on 100 and manage to be WD free until about 4am.this has been going on a year.So if someone’s body never gets to the place where it stabilizes how is it possible to completely get off without excruciating WD symptoms.I have a small child and need to be able to function.The cost of my treatment is not covered by insurance and is a strain on my finances.And I can’t agree that this medication has no side may not for someone on short term but for those on for many years there are side effects.Ive experienced severe muscle/skeletal 38 I’ve started to walk hunched over.also my brain fog has gotten progressively worse.i will forget where I’m going while I’m on the road.Once I drove home from work after paying a bill on my lunch break forgetting totally I was in the middle of a shift.ive been seen by several physicians who can’t find the cause and the only thing they can find that could be causing these is the methadone(besides other MMT patients with similar Heath issues I’ve spoken to)I’m afraid I will never be free of this medicine.I feel like I’m in a prison with no escape.and because I can’t adjust on the lower dose I don’t even get the benefit of a pain free life like in my first years on MMT.

  • Renea says:

    Hi, I have been reading all evening about methadone and the pros and cons of long term use and what happens when trying to get off the medication.
    I have been a opiate abuser for over 25 years, but when the crack down came along, it was getting harder and harder to get them off the streets and way more expensive. So I found myself in opiate withdrawal and it was maddening. To make a long story short, I ended up on heroin to stay out of withdrawal, but even that was hard to maintain.
    I just could not get past the withdrawals! So I found a suboxone doctor and he started me on 8mg bid, then to once a day. I was fine on 8mg a day, but then the pharmacy flagged my chart and informed my doctor that my Suboxone needed to be tapered further, as this medication was not meant for long term use.
    Well that absolutely freaked me out! I was not ready for that to happen.
    My doctor got me down to 4mg a day, but I just wasn’t ready. I ended up falling off the wagon for a couple of months and knew I just could not live that lifestyle. I am getting old. I am 54 years old by the way.
    Anyways, someone knew I was in the military when i was younger and recommended I go to the VA.
    There they put me on Methadone 30mg liquid and I am maintaining now on 60mg daily and have been for the past 3 years. Now I am wanting off of Methadone so bad because I am afraid that if something happened that I was unable to get my Methadone, that I would go through what I call maddening withdrawals! Plus being on Methadone has turned me into a depressed, Non functioning human being. Oh and I’m also taking 40mg of Prozac daily which doesn’t seem to work anymore.
    Sorry that I am making this so long, but I truly am concerned about Methadone withdrawal and the fear of not being able to function due to long term abuse of opiates.
    I feel if I wasn’t rushed off of Suboxone I would have been okay. With Methadone, there doesn’t seem to be any rush by the doctors to get off of it. They don’t pressure me at all about it. I mean, reading all the comments on the Methadone sites has scared me to death because so many have taken it for years and years. I don’t want to be that person and am tired of feeling like I’m in a black cloud, that never goes away.
    Why is there such a rush to get off suboxone? Well I know, it’s because it is very expensive and the insurance companies do not want to pay for it long term. Yup, that’s it!
    Well I will close.
    Hope you read this.
    Respectfully, Renea

  • Skylar says:

    Bob had some good points about being physically dependant to the more severe drugs. It would take a lot of counseling and therapy to get back to normal life. I need to help my brother get to that point in his life.

  • Birdman says:

    I’m glad that you at least tried to answer the questions of can he get off the drug and how. “But one thing you are set on doing is improving your life, and there are many ways to keep doing that – methadone or not — things you don’t talk much about, like exercise, family, friends, work, helping others.But one thing you are set on doing is improving your life, and there are many ways to keep doing that – methadone or not — things you don’t talk much about, like exercise, family, friends, work, helping others.” Focus on the traits and life situations that lead you to be an addict in the first place. If you have found new avenues for coping besides a substance that is success. Quite possibly that is why you don’t feel the need to continue to take methadone. I am a believer in the fact that your nervous system will eventually learn a new reality and the pains you experience will “go away” so to speak. In 2009 I was in a terrible car accident that shattered my tibia, fibia, and broke my femur into multiple pieces. After 7 surgeries I was left to deal with the pain and heroin withdrawals that were peaked by dilaudid (sp?) in the hospital. For the first 3 years my leg hurt so badly that I could barely walk and enjoy life. It was hell. Today, 7 years later, I am still in pain. But I don’t notice it like I use to. My nervous system has adapted to the new reality and has stopped leading me to believe that the pain I was experiencing needed to be treated. My life is good today. I don’t take any medications for pain…not even Tylenol. You will make it Bill. Steadfast willpower and determination. Strongly you will find freedom from your troubles.


  • Jamie says:

    Years?? Im also on methadone going down 10mgs a day from 190 and im terrified abt the withdrawals…

  • Dash says:

    PAWS lasts a few years? You don’t know what you’re talking about. I took methadone for 9 years today I take none, zero, zilch. I went through a rough week but that was all. How did I do it? Buprenorphine patches called Butrans and a little bit of marijuana that as a rule I don’t mess with but someone suggested it and it helped. I strongly recommend these two drugs to anyone trying to kick methadone.

  • Icare says:

    @Bob Newman…. Excellent answer… Just excellent. I have been recovering from addiction myself…15 years of off-on again abuse, until I found methadone. I only take 15mg a day. I am a mother of 3, I work and this has tremendously improved my life. I am “me” again. No haziness, no bad feelings…just the urge to want to take narcotics gone. Line you said, if you had diabetes, you wouldn’t think twice about insulin. No matter what anyone says, this is an illness too. If it’s not broke, why try to fix it. Life is hard enough as it is, why make it harder. Of course doctor’s don’t want you to be on it, because if you take that ONE pill that makes everything better, they can’t write scripts for 10 that don’t, and that’s where they make their money.. Anyways…just my thoughts. Hope this helps someone!

  • Tim says:

    Bob, I’ve got almost the exact same thing. Been on methadone for almost 10 years. Going down slowly but every day my right side hurts sometimes badly to the point I can’t do anything. It’s put me in the deepest rut I’ve ever experienced but I refuse to give up and want OFF this poison asap. I’m down to 17 but I can’t trust the clinic because I’m only $ to them and they will stop my taper with out telling me to keep me there. At this point I’m ready to chain myself to a boulder if that’s what it takes. I haven’t worked in 3 years and I want and need a job but this stops everything. I wish you luck Bob. I wouldn’t wish this on my worst enemy.

  • P says:

    I’d like you to re-read what the commenter above this just said: “You are going to go through PAW’s, which lasts a few YEARS…” …YEARS? YEARS!? No one should have to suffer for YEARS when it just isn’t necessary to do so.

    You should listen to the good Director’s advice. You’re fortunate enough to find a medication that works, is non-toxic, and I’m assuming convenient to obtain (if you’ve been in the program for years you probably have take-homes). Why on EARTH would you even CONSIDER not taking your literally life saving medication?

    My guess is mostly because of the stigma attached to the word “methadone”. If you don’t think that’s true, re-read your original post and every time the word methadone is mentioned, replace it with the word pancakes. You’ll see just how ridiculous the question of “should I stop eating pancakes” really is.

    If you found that pancakes, something that is non-toxic, cheap to make, and convenient to eat took away your desire to do drugs, you would not question it. You’d eat your pancakes everyday and be happy. You might get sick of the same old pancakes everyday, but you’d eat em, and wouldn’t question stopping.

    For you it goes two-fold. You also have a crippling stomach pain issue. Methadone, being an opiate, is also helping you manage the pain from that, whilst not getting you “high”. They say there is no “magic bullet” but you might have come as close as one can to finding one my friend!

    We need to start changing the conversation and let people know that it’s ok to be on methadone for life if it makes your quality of life better. Just like it’s ok to eat pancakes in moderation. 😉

    -A proud, lifelong, methadone advocate.

  • Jason says:

    You have to go through some pain to get to the other side. It’s not going to be easy. When you are on methadone you are taking Narcotics, which feel good. But, you have to expect some pain. You are going to go through Post Acute withdrawal Syndrome (PAW’s), which lasts a few years, but gets better over time. Don’t give up.

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